Double Dip Fantasy

by Steve Berg on July 5, 2010

Double Dip Fantasy

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Great! Just great. One day after Kris posts her dissertation staking out her position as to why we are likely heading for a double dip in the housing market, China decides to issue the message of slower than anticipated growth. Then my old buddy Paul Krugman (formerly known as a brilliant economist) writes a nationally syndicated article telling the world that we are on the verge of the Third Depression. Negative economic news is bursting out all over.

Wonderful. Kris, how lucky can you get? All of this news sends a “sell” message to all of the global equities markets and down we go. In the same post Kris throws down the gauntlet, daring me to challenge her thesis. She’s probably feeling pretty cocky right now. Except for one thing – She’s wrong, at least partly.

First of all, for there to be a double dip, you must first have a sustained upswing in economy and/or housing market. That has not happened. We are in the 7th inning of an extremely stubborn recession brought on not by the traditional business cycle taking a breather but by, among other things, ten years of artificial demand stimulus (starting around 1998) to the housing market due to the grossly negligent and largely unregulated mortgage industry. Money was being pushed out the door faster than buyers could shove it into seller’s hands. Little or no qualifying, no money down, even 110% loans. Add to that the false premise that every business news media outlet is now blaring by comparing everything today to the “peak” year of housing sales, prices, employment, auto sales, GDP, etc. All of these were false positive peaks due to the millions of bogus mortgages that were issued and the home-based ATM machines.

Why are we now surprised by the result? Is it rocket science that Home Depot and Mor Furniture and UPS are doing less business now? But a double dip? No. We have yet to recover. Another step down? Likely. Semantics? I think not.

We are desperately seeking stabilization and on the trip to this Eden we are experiencing a case of micro management. Look at the stock market volatility. Only because homes are less liquid do we not see it there, too. What we do see are the classic signals of reaching stabilization. In Scripps Ranch (I had to get a keyword in somewhere) there is a statistical flat line market with monthly (or even multi-monthly) trips below and above that line.

Kris, your problem is that you and your similarly thinking minions are all in bed (figuratively only, I hope) with the likes of Case & Shiller. You’ve bought into their fancy, schmancy models that neither you, nor anyone else, really understands. Take this chart explaining their algorithms:

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OK — That’s not their chart. It’s a page from my wife’s electricity usage, the wife who refuses to turn off a light when she leaves the room.  But my point is that Case & Shiller have the best business model in the world. Barnum and Bailey would be envious. Hell, the Macau casino owners would be jealous. Case-Shiller has the brilliant idea to tell us what’s already happened and they actually get paid to do it! Now I don’t know about you, but once the ballgame is over, even I can understand the results and I don’t need a bunch of serious looking men in suits to tell me about it.  Be careful if you see these guys driving down the interstate; all they are paying attention to is the rear view mirror.

There is no double dip coming to San Diego since neither the housing market nor the economy in general has recovered enough to form a recent peak. Look at your own bar chart, Kris. It clearly shows a straight line decline. It’s so obvious that even Case & Shiller would feel guilty charging bucks to tell us that. Your problem, along with your buddies C&S, is that you aren’t looking forward. Let me enlighten you.

In San Diego population continues to grow. Increased population creates more demand for goods and services, albeit at a slow pace at the moment. Meeting this increasing demand requires people, materials, manufacturing, capital equipment, technology, and the like. The main reason the economy remains in the toilet is attitude. The psychology sucks right now. Consumers, 70% of the US economy, are not confident so they are hoarding money instead of spending it.

By the way, the monthly University of Michigan Consumer Sentiment Index is no better than Case-Shiller. Do they really think we need to know how people feel every month? Please!! They actually get paid to tell me what I already know. I swear, I’m in the wrong business. But I digress.

As the demand grows for goods and services, the longer people hoard their money, the greater the ultimate demand will be. Just like the artificially formed housing bubble, we are now experiencing the building of a latent demand bubble , a demand that is growing and will eventually burst and need to be satisfied. Just because people want to hang on to their bucks right now doesn’t mean that their washer and dryer isn’t getting older and wearing out or that their car now has over 150,000 miles and needs replacement or that they are having their third child and are desperate to get out of the 1-bedroom apartment.

At some point, things are going to break and the longer everyone waits the greater the ultimate demand will be. We are treading water now, but we are not going under. Add to that the fact that growing latent demand from productivity (efficiencies obtained through technology and best management practices for my Gringo friends) has shot through the roof over the past two years, meaning that management is squeezing the few remaining workers in this country about 20% beyond their capacity. In the very near future the reality will be that in order to make more money (which is what this is all about), more people will need to be hired. Many more. When that happens, all things will change for the better and the recovery in San Diego will be fortified.

Let us also not forget that, with few exceptions, developable land in San Diego is virtually gone. Our economy is as diverse as it gets for a major city and employment here is starting to grow again. Home prices have dropped dramatically and the affordability index is higher than in decades. So you can buy into the negative media and statistics-in-arrears all you want, but in a place with an average annual temperature of 72 degrees and  300+ days a year of sunshine, plus gorgeous beaches and mountains, we are fast approaching an era of moderate, but long term, prosperity. If Case and Shiller were smart, they would bet on it.


ABOUT THE AUTHOR  Steve Berg is Broker/Owner of San Diego Castles Realty. He is an awesome agent and an all-around great guy. When he is not dazzling clients, he contributes the occasional article here.


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JakobNo Gravatar July 5, 2010 at 9:35 am

Yeah kinda reminds you when everyone was unanimously bullish in 2005. In reverse now. Makes me take the other side, and I agree with you Steve. There will be a small pause from the demand that was pulled forward to get the tax credits, but the future looks bright for the best place to live in the most vibrant economy in the world.

KimNo Gravatar July 5, 2010 at 9:38 am

C’mon, Kris wrote this. It’s exactly her style. You can’t fool me.

willNo Gravatar July 5, 2010 at 9:42 am

Oh, snap! Looks like it’s on now. Here’s to more blog fights between you two.

Waiting for Kris’s reply to this “you’re wrong because the entire foundation of your argument doesn’t exist” counter (BTW, Steve, you must know that a counter such as that never works with our wives ;-) )

Kris BergNo Gravatar July 5, 2010 at 10:03 am

Ahem. I leave lights on only when I am returning to a room shortly. (For the record, my cheap husband would have me living above a liquor store in Kansas without electricity or running water if I would let him and he thought he could save $1.94.)

More to point, “It clearly shows a straight line decline.” Yes, dear, it does. Because I showed ANNUAL averages. The month over month chart would clearly show the upward tick that you so conveniently ignore.

Kim — You will never see me write a post questioning my own correctness, as I am always right. I have two “X” chromosomes, after all. This one, I’m afraid, is all Steve. :)

Steve BergNo Gravatar July 5, 2010 at 11:18 am

Jakob – Nice to know I’m not totally lost in the woods all by myself.

Kim – Full disclosure: I wrote it. Kris imitates my writing style regularly (and usually gets her best material from me, too). However, as the site “Administrator,” she did edit/delete my fictional paragraph reference regarding how C & S discovered their model after smoking some decent stuff back in the ’60’s while at some brainiac university. It was actually quite a humorous scenario, but she is a bit risk averse these days.

Will – You are so right. Game on. And, of course, I am destined to lose.

Just like after the recession in the first half of the 90’s, there will be many people in San Diego who, in five short years from now, will look back and question why they hesitated to buy a home back when interest rates were 4.75% and housing prices had pulled back to 2002-2003 levels.

Kris BergNo Gravatar July 5, 2010 at 2:38 pm

>Kris imitates my writing style regularly

Oh, good grief.

Jim the RealtorNo Gravatar July 5, 2010 at 9:21 pm

Go Steve Go!! More spouse wars!!

And don’t let her get away with that liquor-store cheap shot!

KimNo Gravatar July 6, 2010 at 9:04 am

“Just like after the recession in the first half of the 90’s, there will be many people in San Diego who, in five short years from now, will look back and question why didn’t they hesitated to buy a home back when interest rates were 4.75% and housing prices had pulled back to 2002-2003 levels.”
I know what you meant even though you wrote/edited it rather hurriedly. And I wholeheartedly agree (certainly for Northern Virginia).

Steve BergNo Gravatar July 6, 2010 at 9:12 am

Kim – Comment cleaned up. My site Administrator is supposed to catch things like that but obviously she is more worried about living in Kansas. Thanks.

Sunday GoverNo Gravatar July 6, 2010 at 5:34 pm

All I can say is, being a neighbor and all, when I drive by that Casa de Berg after sunset, Steve must be winning that battle of the lights. Do you guys use hand-cranked head lamps?

TimNo Gravatar July 7, 2010 at 1:09 pm

“…brought on not by the traditional business cycle taking a breather but by, among other things, ten years of artificial demand stimulus (starting around 1998) to the housing market due to the grossly negligent and largely unregulated mortgage industry.”

Thank you.

Steve BergNo Gravatar July 7, 2010 at 1:15 pm

Sunday – Solar array headlamps, actually.

Tim – You’re welcome.

Steve BergNo Gravatar July 8, 2010 at 10:57 am

Tim – In all fairness I should probably add that the mortgage industry was not the only group to blame, just the largest. Many buyers had $$ signs in their eyes and their agents, in many cases, did nothing to quell the greed factor. But we have addressed this issue ad nauseum in many previous posts.

Ken BobadillaNo Gravatar July 9, 2010 at 1:32 pm

Kris
I enjoy your SD Blog on occasion to check the pulse of our local broker/agents. Steve’s latest was a very real look at the current state of San Diego’s market and direction. Not being up on the ongoing dual you two are engaging in, I will hold comment. However he makes very poignant remarks about the economy and current state of mind. A change in confidence is big part of the path to recovery. Facing the economic realities of a failed gov’t model over the last four decades (all parties included) that has our state/cities on the verge of bankruptcies is the real bone cruncher. The constant threat to lower or limit our vital services because of budget restrictions has reached a summit. Thus feeding the uncertainty that purveys. A sweeping change in the way gov’t does business will be needed before this economy changes direction. Too many (never owned, or run a business) people are running our cities, states and country. And thus would not even understand the points Steve makes. Deflation is our biggest enemy right now. But even with all that garbage hanging over our economic heads there is no where else I would rather live than San Diego.

And Tim no offense but someone had to write those free money loans for the great big whores on Wall Street (read The Big Short).

Steve BergNo Gravatar July 9, 2010 at 3:49 pm

Ken – Thank you for your comment. You raise a very important issue regarding the financial condition of most local and State governments, especially in California. This is the 800 lb. gorilla in the room and if the situation is not rectified soon, all bets are off… which brings me to Prop 13. It may be time to take another look at it. But that is definitely a post for another day as I’m certain to get major flack for even suggesting it.

Alex CortezNo Gravatar July 10, 2010 at 9:13 am

LOL. First time visitor here and I can say without hesitation that I will be subscribing. So you’re a big fan of Case & Shiller, eh?

Well, I agree with Steve. Even though there are numerous indicators that we are not out of the woods, sales activity (at least in my market) has increased significantly, including a record high for a Maui condo. Point is that there are buyers out there willing to pull the trigger.

Question though (playing devil’s advocate for a minute), how does a particularly high unemployment rate in CA fit into the Double Dip Fantasy?

Steve BergNo Gravatar July 11, 2010 at 8:17 am

Alex – Welcome to the San Diego Home Blog. I think that increases our official readership to four people.

I think we will see our State unempoyment rate remain high for a while longer or, best case, drop very slowly through the end of the year. We have endured huge losses in construction and financial services jobs over the past four years, so I can’t imagine there are many more to lose. About the only jobs remaining to be shed are in government and you know how that goes. But, again, this is evidence of stability (or if you think like Kris, stagnation). Regardless, it’s hard to imagine things going much further south from here for any amount of time (hopefully).

TimNo Gravatar July 13, 2010 at 11:45 am

“Tim – In all fairness I should probably add that the mortgage industry was not the only group to blame, just the largest. Many buyers had $$ signs in their eyes and their agents, in many cases, did nothing to quell the greed factor. But we have addressed this issue ad nauseum in many previous posts.”

Thanks, Steve. I agree. I spent many months looking for a place to buy and there’s a lot of blame to go around as far as how the market is construed in the press…and by the “experts”. Most of the properties I looked at were bank-owned (I can only remember seeing one offered by an actual owner) and it became clear as we went along that their “list price” was merely bait. Let the bidding wars start and all that.

So, it was very refreshing to see your take on it, given how the newspapers proclaim how things are getting better in the market.

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