Dual Agency — Because I couldn’t hold back (and Steve is gone)

by Kris Berg on July 26, 2009

Dual Agency — Because I couldn’t hold back (and Steve is gone)

I don't care what you say, Mommy loves me more!
Creative Commons License photo credit: Ruth L

(Editor’s Note: Steve is somewhere out of broadband range with Daughter #2 conquering yet another pristine high Sierra trail, this being his 48th “last-trip-ever-cause-I’m-getting-too-old-I-promise” backpacking adventure. I do my best work — and get into the most trouble — when he is unaware.)

It seems we are at it again. Dual agency is the topic du jour on the blogs this week (which makes no sense, but you get what I mean), and I spent most of that time plugging my ears and averting my eyes. That is because I seem to be in the minority on this issue. But having decided recently to get back on the horse, I am ready to declare “game on.”

Dual agency, strictly speaking, is where the same brokerage represents both the buyer and a seller in a transaction. If two different agents from the same company, say Millineum 42 or Rock Solid Realty, are representing both parties, this is dual agency, but that is not the kind of dual agency most are concerned with. It is the single-agent dual agent which tends to get everyone in a lather.

Dual Agency Refresher

Say I have a listing contract with a seller. I have an agency relationship with the seller; I am his fiduciary. Now, what if a would-be buyer comes to me and asks me to write an offer for him? In this case, if I agree, I also am establishing an agency relationship with the buyer; now, I am his fiduciary as well. On the face, this sounds like the work of the devil, and rightly so. The argument is rather obvious. How can I pound my fists on the table in an attempt to negotiate the highest price for the seller and then, presto, change hats and chairs and argue for the lowest price for my buyer client? I can’t. But…

I’ll repeat a little speech we are called on to deliver at almost every listing presentation, and it is generally in response to the question, “If you represent the buyer too, will you reduce your fee?” Remember, the listing contract specifies both the total fee due to the listing agent and the portion of that fee that will be paid to a cooperating broker. Right or wrong, the seller is paying the listing agent the fee, and the seller and listing agent are agreeing that a portion of the fee (usually, but not always, half) will be sent the way of the buyer’s broker if there is one. In short, the seller is hiring me to bring a palatable offer to the table. Part of doing that is by offering compensation to another agent who can assist, but it is the listing agent’s contract.

The Speech

But, back to the speech. It goes something like this. Dual agency by its very nature begs at least the perception of conflict of interest, so it is not something we seek out. In addition to marketing your home and generating offers, my job is to negotiate the best price for your home that the market will bear while keeping us all out of the pokey. In certain circumstances, dual agency may be to your benefit and to the buyer’s. In others, it may not. Under no circumstances will we act as dual agents if even one of the parties is just slightly less than thrilled with the notion. Thrilled clients trump the paycheck every day of the week. That’s how we roll.

Where is the argument?

So, why would dual agency possible be acceptable, even beneficial, to both parties? There can be many reasons. Let’s start with defining the “agent.” I happen to work in tandem with my husband and business partner. Functionally, we do not operate as the two-headed agent. He has closed transactions where I have never met the client or seen the home and the other way around. In the event we both have an initial relationship with the client, it always evolves to the point where there is one primary point of contact, and the other is relegated to back-up mode. Who takes the lead is a natural evolution, sometimes dependent on schedules but more often on personalities.

So, we have the ability to act as dual agents because we are “dual” agents. This may sound like semantics, and it won’t work if you are working with agents who are ethically challenged, but ethics are central to our model and our being. The day I knowingly breach ethics, you have my permission to shoot me through the temple and call it a day. (I’m embellishing; report me to the Department of Real Estate and have my license revoked. It’s just as painful but a little less a felony.) Case in point – we actually had a listing this year where I was the lead on the listing, while Steve had a buyer client he had been working with for a year who wanted to make an offer. He did, with Steve, and two other buyers did, with their own agents. The home closed escrow two months ago, and Steve’s client is still out looking. It was one of my proudest moments.

If you as an agent are in a position to divide and conquer, it can work. If you have an established relationship with a buyer who trusts only you to represent them, it can work. If you are a single agent who has to deal loyalties from a deck just to “make the deal,” then the dual agency naysayers have a valid point.

Web 2.0 is Disintermediating the Buyers’ Agent

I’m not saying this is a good thing, cutting the buyers’ agent out of the equation. It’s not; in fact, it stinks. It’s just that the reality of the world in which we now live is that consumers are empowered with information and access. They are taking matters into their own hands. And many buyers sense that by buying direct, there may be a benefit. I’m not saying it is always so, or even mostly so (Note to attorneys: Commissions are negotiable!), but variable commissions are not all that uncommon. An example of a variable commission is where the listing agent agrees to a total commission of “X” unless he represents both parties, in which case the commission will be “X minus something.”  So, free agent buyers (no pun intended) are becoming more commonplace. And, in the case of the variable commission and two parties living in the land of reasonableness, a gap can be closed to their mutual benefit. Turn your back on this segment of the buyer population, and you are shrinking your selling client’s buyer pool to their detriment.

Circumstantial Evidence

Finally, circumstances may beg for a dual agency situation. Recently, we were approached by a would-be buyer for one of our listing who wanted the home – badly. They were informed, they had been looking, they had done the research and the math, and they knew exactly what they wanted to pay. Only, they had a home to sell. Now, had they waltzed in with another agent, our client may have been less than inclined to entertain their contingent offer. But, the seller trusted us. They knew how we marketed, they trusted our opinion of value, and they knew that if we said the buyer’s home would be under contract in a given period of time, it would. Anyone else, and they likely would have kicked them to the curb. Using the divide and conquer approach, we now have two clients who couldn’t be happier with the outcome, which is ultimately the goal.

In Short (like I’m capable of that)

Dual agency has many forms. It can be evil incarnate or it take the form of accomplishing what we were hired to do – sell the home.  It is situational; there are situations in which is can work exceedingly well, yet other times it can be a recipe for disaster. Making a blanket indictment of the practice is, in my opinion, knee-jerk. One of the biggest vocal opponents of dual agency, Ardell DellaLoggia, once said it best:

“If” the beginning of every residential real estate transaction were the buyers and the sellers and their agents meeting and chatting, maybe having dinner together and a drink or two for an hour. Then everyone walks through the house together while the seller tells the buyer the story of their life in the house and the buyer and agents ask questions. Then the offer is written, and proceeds through the inspections to find things the seller just truly doesn’t know about. At the end of the transaction when all items and terms are fully negotiated, the buyer comes into the room with a check in his hand. The seller comes into the room with the keys to all doors and garage door openers and manuals on appliances. The agents review the final numbers and nod to the closing agent.

Sometimes, just sometimes, that is what a dual agency situation can accomplish.


ABOUT THE AUTHOR  Kris Berg is Co-Owner and Designated Broker of San Diego Castles Realty. If not-so static web sites are your thing, go here at once where you will find loads of real estate information including homes for sale, market trends, floor plans and more. Kris's hobbies include fencing and spot welding. She likes kittens.


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Jeffrey DouglassNo Gravatar July 29, 2009 at 8:25 am

Kris, just when I am ready to put some closing arguments for dual agency vs. single agency you come along with this really interesting post. I kinda feel that I have beat the dead horse enough, but I cannot pass up one last closing post regarding agency.

You’ve made some good points that will be quoted – thanks for showing us all there is always more than just black and white in the world. Sometimes the most important factor is the character of the agent or agents involved in the transaction.

Okay back to work finishing up “Dual Agency – Some Closing Thoughts”

Jay ThompsonNo Gravatar July 29, 2009 at 3:16 pm

The next time someone tells me my posts are too long, I’m sending them here. :)

This was typical Kris Berg. Well written, funny, and thought provoking. You make a compelling argument that there are some good things about dual agency.

As I am also a member of a husband-wife (who does all the real work) agent team, I agree completely that in dual agency situations like that, the client loses nothing. I’d even argue that if represented within my brokerage, clients will lose nothing (and may in fact gain as, well, they’d be represented by first-class agents).

But I still have fundamental issues with single-agent dual agency except in the rarest of circumstances.

Jeffrey DouglassNo Gravatar July 29, 2009 at 9:41 pm

Okay Kris, after a long day of showing property finally got Dual Agency and the Dead Horse posted.

http://www.sandiegolifestyle.info/2009/07/dual-agency-dead-horse-closing-thoughts/

Psst: Just between you and I, don’t tell anyone…you guys could be my dual agents anytime! By the way, do you have a large shovel I could borrow?

Steve BergNo Gravatar July 30, 2009 at 1:12 pm

Now that I have successfully returned from the wilderness (It’s always a 50-50 proposition whether I will or not), I can honestly state that while we do not always agree on things Kris is, in fact, correct about dual agency. We’ve done it enough to know when and, more importantly, when not to do it. For us, it works for two primary reasons that are worth reiterating: 1.) We are extremely careful about disclosing the facts about it, which is the most important aspect of the law; and, 2.) We will just not do it without the complete confidence of both the buyer and the seller. Life is too short to do otherwise.

SmithersNo Gravatar August 1, 2009 at 10:52 pm

Steve, I am jealous, I haven’t been out on a good, dusty, trout breakfasts, rehydrated “steak” dinner, high sierra backpack trip in years. Mrs. Smithers insists on styaing in condos with granite countertops showers and nearby expensive restaurants, and the kids want high speed internet and cable. Back in the late 70s – early 80s (think big hair and short shorts), I walked the most of the John Muir trail over the course of a few summers, including all manner of feeder trails (Rock Creek, Convict, June Lake, Virginia Lakes, Twin Lakes, etc). There is no more beautiful place on earth (including Ha’ena, a close second in my book).

Kris, regarding your “emailer”, I sometimes get equivalent emails asking me for legal advice. I never respond. I have no reason to be “polite” to unsolicited emails, nor do you.

Regarding Dual Agency, eh … the buyer can just as easily go agent free, and the commission can be kept lower. Yeah, yeah, I know, some (many, most?) buyers are happy to get their hand held, especially those who accept the “sellers are paying” message on face value. But, that makes good business for you guys, so go for it. Pays for more backpacking.

SmithersNo Gravatar August 1, 2009 at 10:59 pm

And, you real estate agents might want to use a different term for dual agency than “double ending” for the obvious reasons …

(Sorry, I know this is a family blog)

Steve BergNo Gravatar August 3, 2009 at 2:58 pm

Hi Smithers – Mrs. Smithers and Kris are cut from the same mold re: backpacking. The only way Kris will ever see Yosemite is through the window of a suite at the Ahwahnee which, as you know, is about $400/night, so that’s not happening anytime soon. But I’m glad to hear you nderstand my irrational desire for self-torture along the JMT and/or many of the (as you say) feeder trails. You may know of the famous Whoa Nellie Deli near Lee Vining. I just had the best burger there! Of course, after enough days of the Mountain House freeze-dried meals any burger might taste great. Also, I totally relate to your “big hair/short shorts” reference to the ’70’s and ’80’s B-packing. I have pictures…

One semi-interesting (or maybe not) note to your scenario that the buyer go naked (no agent) is that in each of the few cases where we encountered a buyer who wanted to represent themselves, our client (the seller), insisted that the buyer be represented by an agent (even if it was not us). The issue, which will come as no surprise to an attorney, is liability. The liability to the seller and the seller’s agent actually increases substantially when a buyer is unrepresented. BTW -In each of our cases the unrepresented buyer was not the ultimate buyer of our listings.

SmithersNo Gravatar August 3, 2009 at 3:54 pm

Steve,

The Bridgeport deli sounds familiar. But, as you point out, after a week on the “rehydrated food plan”, even the grilled cheese at the Little Virginia Lake store counter is mighty tasty. There were similarly tasty grilled cheese sandwichs to be had at Tom’s place, the restaurant at Kennedy Meadows (after a freak August storm dumped a foot of snow on us our last night), and at the store near Sabrina (South Lake?). Too far back for me to remember them all.

Regarding buyers “going naked”, the Smithers recently closed escrow on a second home on Kauai very much naked. the seller’s broker was very clear that she would not do a dual agency representation, and we were clear in writing that she did not represent us. It might have helped that I am a lawyer (although not a RE lawyer, and not licensed in HI), and that Mrs. Smithers still looks damn good naked at her age (rhymes with “nifty”).

It was obviously unusual for a buyer to skip the agent part, but not at all unheard of according to the escrow/title lady. And, it did help the seller accept our lowball when his broker/agent agreed to limit their commission to 3.5% (real money at that price range), which would not have happened had we brought another mouth (set of mouths) to feed.

I don’t recommend or advocate that buyers go without agents. Just because I prefer to do so does not mean it makes sense for others. Just like in California, every transient haole on the north shore of Kauai is a realtor (surprise!), it did visibly bug each and every one when I politiely as possible declined to have them be our agent. We had one guy asking to be our agent after we were already in escrow. Didn’t I know that the seller pays for my realtor? I was leaving free money (for him) on the table.

Yes, free elephant rides for a dollar.

Steve BergNo Gravatar August 3, 2009 at 4:34 pm

Smithers – Agreed and happy for you and your purchase. In my world, if a Smithers wanted to buy one of our listings unrepresented I would have no problem with it and I would share my confidence with my client. Ultimately the decision is theirs, of course. Unfortunately, I think you may be an exception to the rule, as the few unrepresented buyers who have approached us and/or our clients were not quite of the same ilk.

Tom’s Place, Kennedy Meadows, Lake Sabrina? You have been around the Sierra!! All fabulous trailheads, too. I can only add that the snack bar at Whitney Portal is to die for…

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