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	<title>Comments on: 1st Quarter &#8216;08 - Quick Stats for Scripps Ranch</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Steve Berg</title>
		<link>http://sandiegohomeblog.com/2008/04/04/1st-quarter-08-quick-stats-for-scripps-ranch/#comment-146627</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Berg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack - I see you are wearing your pessimist hat today. I agree that we are not through the cleansing process, yet. But, your look into the future may be a bit of an overgeneralization. You describe conditions that are valid in some/many of the submarkets in San Diego County, but certainly not all. For example, detached inventory in Scripps Ranch has been hovering at about 1.2% and has not exceeded 2% for the past 10 years (at least), including post 9/11. That is not what I would describe as a tremendous supply imbalance. There are many other submarkets sharing these same, not-so negative, characteristics. Your best point refers to the demand side. Sales are down signifcantly. But as prices drop, we are seeing some fabulous values, even considering your timeline for stabilization. We are also increasingly running into multiple offers for both our listings and our buyers. 

Most of your references seem to apply to first time buyers. Another thing we are increasingly seeing is the existing homeowner who purchased more than 3-4 years ago, who still has a decent, if not significant amount of equity and wants/needs to upsize (or downsize). They are not in the bind of the "low/no down payment, peak period" buyer. They know that as prices adjust for the home they want to purchase, their existing home is adjusting in relatively the same manner. There is little incentive for these buyers to wait. 

What's conspicuously missing from the demand side are the first time buyers and investors, who remain patiently waiting (with you) on the sidelines. The flat-line business employment growth isn't helping, either.    

Thanks for your look into the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack - I see you are wearing your pessimist hat today. I agree that we are not through the cleansing process, yet. But, your look into the future may be a bit of an overgeneralization. You describe conditions that are valid in some/many of the submarkets in San Diego County, but certainly not all. For example, detached inventory in Scripps Ranch has been hovering at about 1.2% and has not exceeded 2% for the past 10 years (at least), including post 9/11. That is not what I would describe as a tremendous supply imbalance. There are many other submarkets sharing these same, not-so negative, characteristics. Your best point refers to the demand side. Sales are down signifcantly. But as prices drop, we are seeing some fabulous values, even considering your timeline for stabilization. We are also increasingly running into multiple offers for both our listings and our buyers. </p>
<p>Most of your references seem to apply to first time buyers. Another thing we are increasingly seeing is the existing homeowner who purchased more than 3-4 years ago, who still has a decent, if not significant amount of equity and wants/needs to upsize (or downsize). They are not in the bind of the &#8220;low/no down payment, peak period&#8221; buyer. They know that as prices adjust for the home they want to purchase, their existing home is adjusting in relatively the same manner. There is little incentive for these buyers to wait. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s conspicuously missing from the demand side are the first time buyers and investors, who remain patiently waiting (with you) on the sidelines. The flat-line business employment growth isn&#8217;t helping, either.    </p>
<p>Thanks for your look into the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Tong</title>
		<link>http://sandiegohomeblog.com/2008/04/04/1st-quarter-08-quick-stats-for-scripps-ranch/#comment-146611</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Tong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 05:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>first, inventory is still at record levels. but the type of inventory has changed. it has now changed from market testers to overwhelmingly REOs and short sales, these will continue to drive the prices downward.

second, sales continue to decline, which will drive sellers that can hold on to try to hold on for longer. leaving the inventory to become even more dominated by the REOs. banks will be competing against each other, and often, a single bank will have multiple properties in the same development, driving the price down further.

third, as values drop, more buyers that purchased at the peak will consider walking away. if so, more increase in REOs to come.

right now there's a backlog of postponed trustee's sales, a backlog of REOs not even on sale, as well as delinquents that are not getting NODs because the banks are overwhelmed. 

NODs and REOs will continue to increase through this year and next. as long as the NOD/REO numbers continue to go up, we are not going to see bottom. 

expect 2010 as the earliest possible bottom, but more likely 2012.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>first, inventory is still at record levels. but the type of inventory has changed. it has now changed from market testers to overwhelmingly REOs and short sales, these will continue to drive the prices downward.</p>
<p>second, sales continue to decline, which will drive sellers that can hold on to try to hold on for longer. leaving the inventory to become even more dominated by the REOs. banks will be competing against each other, and often, a single bank will have multiple properties in the same development, driving the price down further.</p>
<p>third, as values drop, more buyers that purchased at the peak will consider walking away. if so, more increase in REOs to come.</p>
<p>right now there&#8217;s a backlog of postponed trustee&#8217;s sales, a backlog of REOs not even on sale, as well as delinquents that are not getting NODs because the banks are overwhelmed. </p>
<p>NODs and REOs will continue to increase through this year and next. as long as the NOD/REO numbers continue to go up, we are not going to see bottom. </p>
<p>expect 2010 as the earliest possible bottom, but more likely 2012.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Berg</title>
		<link>http://sandiegohomeblog.com/2008/04/04/1st-quarter-08-quick-stats-for-scripps-ranch/#comment-146603</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Berg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack - I hear ya. So when do YOU think it will be time to buy? Just curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack - I hear ya. So when do YOU think it will be time to buy? Just curious.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Tong</title>
		<link>http://sandiegohomeblog.com/2008/04/04/1st-quarter-08-quick-stats-for-scripps-ranch/#comment-146601</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Tong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>200k losses are pretty common place these days even with sub-$1 million purchases (he purchased at $860k). it didn't help that he bought in San Elijo Hills with its associated high mello roos. 

and as a physician, of course he could have afforded the house. but through a lot of sacrifices such as taking on multiple additional shifts to make ends meet. that $1000 extra that he has to pay every month because he didn't wait is basically loss of 2 weekends every month for many years to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>200k losses are pretty common place these days even with sub-$1 million purchases (he purchased at $860k). it didn&#8217;t help that he bought in San Elijo Hills with its associated high mello roos. </p>
<p>and as a physician, of course he could have afforded the house. but through a lot of sacrifices such as taking on multiple additional shifts to make ends meet. that $1000 extra that he has to pay every month because he didn&#8217;t wait is basically loss of 2 weekends every month for many years to come.</p>
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		<title>By: The San Diego Home Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why isn't my home selling?</title>
		<link>http://sandiegohomeblog.com/2008/04/04/1st-quarter-08-quick-stats-for-scripps-ranch/#comment-146596</link>
		<dc:creator>The San Diego Home Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why isn't my home selling?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 14:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Are we there yet? No, not yet. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Are we there yet? No, not yet. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Berg</title>
		<link>http://sandiegohomeblog.com/2008/04/04/1st-quarter-08-quick-stats-for-scripps-ranch/#comment-146572</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Berg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack - Welcome back! $200k less? Did they buy a $1 million plus home? Regardless, the fact that your colleague's home is worth more or less today would not have been the determining factor as to whether he/she could afford it (and the monthly payments) at the time of purchase (unless of course one could predict the future). Assuming a fixed rate loan, the payment of two years ago is the same today, so they knew exactly what they were getting into. If they opted for an adjustable rate loan with little or no down payment, assuming (and, in fact, betting on) a future refinance after the property appreciated, they obviously made the wrong bet, as so many others have.

Either way, your decision to wait worked for you, so congrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack - Welcome back! $200k less? Did they buy a $1 million plus home? Regardless, the fact that your colleague&#8217;s home is worth more or less today would not have been the determining factor as to whether he/she could afford it (and the monthly payments) at the time of purchase (unless of course one could predict the future). Assuming a fixed rate loan, the payment of two years ago is the same today, so they knew exactly what they were getting into. If they opted for an adjustable rate loan with little or no down payment, assuming (and, in fact, betting on) a future refinance after the property appreciated, they obviously made the wrong bet, as so many others have.</p>
<p>Either way, your decision to wait worked for you, so congrats.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris Berg</title>
		<link>http://sandiegohomeblog.com/2008/04/04/1st-quarter-08-quick-stats-for-scripps-ranch/#comment-146568</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris Berg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your priorities, Jack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your priorities, Jack.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Tong</title>
		<link>http://sandiegohomeblog.com/2008/04/04/1st-quarter-08-quick-stats-for-scripps-ranch/#comment-146565</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Tong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 04:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a colleague that bought instead of waited has been working extra shifts every weekend for the past year for a house that is now $200k less in value. for that house, he has virtually no free time for his family. 

so no, it was not a purely dollar and cents decision, it was a decision to ensure a sound financial bedrock for my family as well as the realization that family time is simply priceless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a colleague that bought instead of waited has been working extra shifts every weekend for the past year for a house that is now $200k less in value. for that house, he has virtually no free time for his family. </p>
<p>so no, it was not a purely dollar and cents decision, it was a decision to ensure a sound financial bedrock for my family as well as the realization that family time is simply priceless.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris Berg</title>
		<link>http://sandiegohomeblog.com/2008/04/04/1st-quarter-08-quick-stats-for-scripps-ranch/#comment-146551</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris Berg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 14:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack - I forgot my manners. If that was a veiled early Happy Bloggy Birthday greeting, thank you! For whatever it's worth, I enjoy Sees chocolate butter creams and, of course, cash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack - I forgot my manners. If that was a veiled early Happy Bloggy Birthday greeting, thank you! For whatever it&#8217;s worth, I enjoy Sees chocolate butter creams and, of course, cash.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris Berg</title>
		<link>http://sandiegohomeblog.com/2008/04/04/1st-quarter-08-quick-stats-for-scripps-ranch/#comment-146550</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris Berg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 14:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack - :) If it is purely a dollars and cents decision for you to purchase, then so I am. We have been pretty forthright over the past two years about where we believe the market has been heading, and while we were not exactly wrong, you were &lt;i&gt;more&lt;/i&gt; right. I will give you that one. What is your pronosis today?

Jason, Thanks for stopping by! Yes, your market is a little different. We currently have a client in the process of moving an investment to your area, in fact. Good luck with your "new" self-hosted blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack - <img src='http://sandiegohomeblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> If it is purely a dollars and cents decision for you to purchase, then so I am. We have been pretty forthright over the past two years about where we believe the market has been heading, and while we were not exactly wrong, you were <i>more</i> right. I will give you that one. What is your pronosis today?</p>
<p>Jason, Thanks for stopping by! Yes, your market is a little different. We currently have a client in the process of moving an investment to your area, in fact. Good luck with your &#8220;new&#8221; self-hosted blog.</p>
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