Sometimes we (”we” being one-dimensional real estate agents) assume that our clients know something simply because we are on board. This week, I had conversations with two separate people during which I was reminded that not everyone is all-consumed with matters of real estate. What may be common knowledge to us may not be so for our clients who lead more normal lives with more balanced interests.
So, today I bring you a new twist on our old version of “Ask the Brokers.” I call it “What You Might Have Asked the Brokers Had You Known the Question.”
Q: What does the Mortgage Forgiveness Debt Relief Act of 2007 mean to me?
A: This bill was signed into law on December 20, 2007. For homeowners in a mortgage mess, the Debt Relief Act was President Bush’s Christmas present to you.
Prior to December, any debt forgiveness on the part of your lender, such as might occur during a short-sale or foreclosure, came with the potential for the “gift” to be considered gross income and subject to Federal income tax. Under the new law, forgiven debt on a principle residence is not subject to this taxation. There is one caveat - Any forgiven debt will be subtracted from the basis of the property, so in theory a homeowner could find themselves with a taxable gain, but I suspect these cases will be rare, since Federal law still allows exemptions of $250,000 for individuals and $500,000 for married couples.
As a somewhat unrelated aside, this law also gives a surviving spouse two years after the death of a spouse to sell a principle residence and still qualify for the full $500,000 married capital gains exemption.
Q: Can I lower my property taxes?
A: You can not lower your property tax rate, of course. The rate is set by law. You may, however, be in a position to lower the assessed value of your property which is the amount on which you are taxed.
In California, only when a property transfers (is sold), or in the case of new construction, is completed, is it reassessed. For ownership transfers, the purchase price becomes the new assessed value. Proposition 13 limits subsequent increases in the assessed value to 2% annually, based on the California Consumer Price Index. Our California property tax rate is 1% plus any bonds, fees, or special charges.
In an environment of declining home values, many homeowners are now finding that the market value of their home is less than when it when it was purchased. The County of San Diego has a process for dealing with these situations wherein the homeowner may appeal their assessed value.
From the San Diego County Tax Assessor’s web site:
Under State law, if the current market value of your property (recent comparable sales) falls below the assessed or taxable value as shown on your tax bill, the Assessor’s Office is required to lower the assessment. This type of property tax relief generally applies to recently purchased property. There are two periods during the year in which the taxpayer may appeal their assessed value for a temporary reduction:
- (1) Between March through May:
- During this period, the taxpayer may submit a written request to the Assessor, indicating their opinion of value and providing supporting documentation, such as sales of comparable properties or a recent appraisal. For more information, call (858) 505-6262.
- (2) Between July 2 and November 30:
- During this period, the taxpayer must file an application form. Appeal forms can be obtained and must be filed with the Clerk of the Board at 1600 Pacific Highway, Room 402, San Diego, CA 92101-2471. For more information, call (619) 531-5777.
So, there you have it, since you didn’t ask.









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Jim
01.18.08 at 11:28 am
Thanks for the property tax question. I’ve actually been thinking about that this week.
Kris Berg
01.18.08 at 12:25 pm
Hah! I knew it!
Glad it turned out to be timely, Jim.
Thomas Johnson
01.18.08 at 1:07 pm
I hope that the California Tax Assessors are a bit less arrogant than their counterparts in Virginia and Texas, Like Tylene Gamble, Chief Appraiser, Wharton County, TX and Todd Kaufman, Tax Assessor, Loudoun County, VA.
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These functionaries are appointed by elected officials and are under tremendous pressure to “maintain the tax base” so that the elected officials can keep up their spending programs without raising the tax rate. In CA, Prop 13 gave you sticky increases on the way up, I wonder how easily the politicians will give back revenue that they see as theirs to spend.
Kris Berg
01.18.08 at 1:52 pm
Yes - I have been following that fiasco. But, I must tell you, the San Diego County Assessor is one cool dude - really! Steve and I personally had occassion in the mid-90s to appeal our assessed value, and the process was quite straight-forward (and successful). I have known many others who have successfully lowered their tax bills in San Diego County both then and recently.
Jim
01.18.08 at 2:07 pm
Here\’s the next website to look at http://www.sdcounty.ca.gov/cob/aab/index.html
On the linked application (PDF), this is the bit where you get to make your case for your value:
\”The request must contain the basis of your opinion of value. Please include comparable sales, cost, and income data where appropriate to support the value.\”
I wonder if we can use the value from Zillow to make our case, or if we must pull in an agent to come up with the appropriate comps? Any thoughts?
Bob
01.18.08 at 2:18 pm
>Under the new law, forgiven debt on a principle residence is not subject to this taxation.
Actually it isn’t that cut and dry. It has to be “qualified acquisition debt”.
Thomas Johnson
01.18.08 at 2:22 pm
“San Diego County Assessor is one cool dude”
I wonder if he will be so amenable to lowering values as the aggregate tax base is crashing down around his ears in an economic recession. I fear that the fallout of the real estate “bubble” as reflected in the massive depreciation of the aggregate tax base is going to get very ugly indeed. Local governments tend to budget right at maximum anticipated tax revenue and with the pending meltdown of the bond insurance and rating agencies, there will be tremendous pressure from elected officials to keep what they have to avoid tax increases which not only anger the voters, but also will stifle economic growth in to a slowing economy.
Jim: Most assessors are bound by a statute that requires assessments to be at “market value”. I would load my property assessment appeal with hard closed transactions of comparable properties. I can think of no one better to assist you with gathering the local data than Chris and Steve Berg, our hosts.
Kris Berg
01.18.08 at 2:26 pm
So true, which is why I should always remember to add that darn “I am not an attorney nor am I a CPA” disclaimer. (Acquisition debt being the amount of the mortgage; qualified debt is that amount not exceeding the cost of the home plus improvements. Bob will correct me if I am wrong.
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Kris Berg
01.18.08 at 2:31 pm
Jim, Sorry. I seem to be working backwards on comments. Just a hunch, but I don’t thing your Zestimate is going to be sufficient. My experience has been that you want to submit both comparable sales data (yes, an agent can help you with this) and an independent appraisal from a license appraiser.
Thanks, Thomas, for the vote of confidence.
Kris Berg
01.18.08 at 2:47 pm
Post script: Since Bob was too much of a gentleman, here is the link to his own (much more comprehensive) post on the Debt Relief Act.
Freddy
06.03.08 at 5:48 pm
I live in the San Elijo Hills area in San Marcos and bought my home for $955,000 in 2006. I had a company called California Tax Refunds do my property tax paperwork for the 2007 tax year and had an $185,000 reduction in my assessed value to $770,000. I received a refund check for around $2,000 and will continue to save that every year. I was a little skeptical at first but they are members of the BBB and are licensed Real Estate Appraisers and did a great job. I also liked the fact that they charge a flat fee. Give them a call, it’s worth it (858)-541-2400.
Kris Berg
06.03.08 at 9:40 pm
Freddy - Good for you! That is what service industries are all about. I had a bunch of folks ask me for comparable sales statistics this Spring in order to appeal their taxes. One can do it themselves, no doubt, but one can also pay someone to do it on their behalf. It is a decision we all make from time to time, and there is a trade-off. You paid for a service presumably so you could spend your time in other, more lucrative or satisfying ways. In any event, congratulations and kudos for knowing enough to pursue the issue!
BTW, I’m a big fan of your neighborhood and the design concept. If my commute wouldn’t be so insanely insufferable, I might be your neighbor now!
Freddy
06.05.08 at 2:59 pm
Kris - I just did not have the time to do all of the research and paperwork, so it was worth the money.
Your right about San Elijo Hills, it is a great neighborhood, I just wish I waited till now to buy my home.
Kris Berg
06.06.08 at 8:07 am
Freddy - Kind of the same reasons people use my services.
Congratulations on your victory.
Jim
06.06.08 at 9:17 am
We submitted the forms ourselves, waiting for word back from the county assessor. Included three comps that our last buyer’s (and seller’s) agent was able to generate for us.
Didn’t ask for the Zillow number, but anything is an improvement, right?